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Let me start by noting that I do not condone font piracy. I am a graphic designer and typographer by trade and I have always licensed all fonts in my work. That said, I don't have a problem downloading collections for preview and trial purposes. I am looking for good trackers for finding fonts and font collections, preferably organized so as to allow browsing fonts as a category, instead of being limited to results of a search. If one doesn't exist, it damn sure should. Who is with me?

Please do not turn this thread into a soapbox for copyright and/or intellectual property politics. Start a new one if you must. Aluminum: Could you explain a bit further, because it seems to me that since you're talking about being held at gunpoint: It's something you're forced to do, even though you despise it a lot. English isn't my primary language, so maybe I don't complete understand your post / metaphor.

@Bert: mooie vergelijking;) It made me smile, although you would be copying the food before you tasted it. In general: I agree with Bert, and maybe not as strong as the words Nick chose, but still, I agree with his point. I thought it would distract everyone away from the innocent-bashing. I guess it might work.

We really need to learn how to resolve these issues in a more civilized manner. This throat-jumping knee-jerk reaction is always terrible. People will come here asking for this and for cheap logos and the works. Get with the times. They're not killing whales. They thought it was innocent enough that they could put themselves out here, or maybe they didn't think at all. They never saw these things as we do, from our perspective.

The fact that some of us might think that this or that is really very wrong is no excuse for treating people, especially recent/new members, like this. We need to embrace them. We need them. We need some default, civilized, educational response. These reactions are constant and, I believe, below us. I answered your question in a non bitchy manner.

There's no mass of interested font collectors with a taste for current font releases fonts who use torrents. At least not the public trackers.

I think that's why the majority of font torrents are ancient collections of converted junk, graffiti font collections or mainstream big company collections. I'm not saying that to discourage people. Anyone can Google the words font & torrent and see for themselves. The foundry collections, while they sounds exciting and useful, tend to be really outdated.

I'm not going to name specific ones but I think they're really only useful to font historians. I'm not sure why, but the font scene is mostly a Rapidshare (or similar) scene. Usually when I see my own fonts being posted, it's usually a Rapidshare link. Whenever I see my own fonts in torrents, they're usually old versions of my early fonts mixed in with the usual 40,000 or so font grab bag mixed with free fonts.. I think you know what I'm talking about.

I'm not sure about the Usenet font scene.. Those cats are hard core.

But so many Usenet search sites are fake so who knows? From the Usenet search tools it looks as if there are some current font collections being traded but it sounds unlikely. I've seen supposed Usenet collections, supposedly containing fonts of which I had only sold 3 copies. I don't think it's that way by accident. There's a real lack of availability and a fairly high price point (compared to music, movies, tv) which prevents torrents of new fonts to be released as torrents in the first place. If a font is $50 and sells 25 copies, how likely is it that one of those is going to end up on a tracker? Since, I think, most font buyers are designers, are those designers really going to take the time to post a torrent with single font family?